p. 60 Q How did you deal with competitors? A We just tried to, tried to provide a better service, one way or another. Finally it got to the point where we, in 1975, when we realized we had to have what is called a rental lot, what I call the U-Haul Center, in order to properly serve the customer. We rented in a very, very serious private study in Stockton, California, and kept tabs on the whole thing, and the results at our centers were so much better than service stations that it was dramatic. Q The competition drove you to the center concept? A Oh, what drove us to the center concept was service. We felt we had good products, but, but, products alone are not what the customer buys. The customer buys, really buys a service. They don’t buy a product. Q You mentioned earlier - - some of your competitors were using these types of centers. How did you go about studying the particular operation? Or did you? A I did, certainly. Of course one of my real clear (mentors) - - Mr. Greenberg - - who was the grandfather, the most revered man in the general equipment business, was my personal friend from the early days. And he helped me even try to get into the general equipment rental business from the beginning. We talked about it. Q The prototype for the center was in Stockton, California. A That was in ’74, and it was the first prototype center. And so a lot of work was done first to find the property and what we were going to do, and then how to do it, how to set it up and do what we called product engineering. Q How many pieces of property did you did you purchase between the decision made in 1974 to get into this and when you basically considered the expansion complete? A In order to do this, we often had to pur- chase more than one piece of property, adjacent. And we acquired them maybe over a three - or four-year period - - but I think that there was something like 1,600 purchases, individual purchases of real estate. Now we didn’t end up with that many centers. We did end up with 1,224 centers at the time. Q The 1,200 - some-odd centers - - were most of those on Amerco owned real estate?
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